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The question - I'm not sure that all cylinders are
like mine but I guess they are basically the same. Coming
out of the reeds and into the cylinder, there is an intake
port straight ahead, then two smaller ones that wrap around
the sides and go into the cylinder on the sides. These ports
are about the size of nickel. Can they be opened up more to
provide increased flow or will this interfere with other
things?
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The response - Yes, those passages feed the lower
crankcase, help provide lubrication to the main bearings and
increase the flow of mixture to the transfer ports -
particularly when the piston is at or near BDC and the
exhaust is returning a suction wave. Increasing the size of
them should be done carefully in order to NOT weaken the
cylinder. Removing material closer to the cylinder liner is
preferred over removing it from the outer side where it
could weaken the area of the cylinder where the base nuts
hold the cylinder down. It is doubtful that increasing the
size of these ports and not doing anything else to the
cylinder will produce ANY increase in power - however
removing casting flaws in the cylinder ports (especially in
this area) can produce noticeable results.
- Massive ports are not always the key to a faster
bike. When you make the ports larger you also decrease
the velocity of the gasses that pass through them and
decrease the crankcase compression. This has to be taken
into consideration and compensated for - depending on the
application the motor will be used for.
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- Many times I port engines by using epoxy to make
passages smaller to increase the velocity of the gasses
traveling through them. Many engines have their port
angle-area, time-area mismatched (too large) and need
some adjustment to make them more effective at the target
rpm of the engine. Epoxy can be used to correct dips,
valleys and other casting flaws and reshape poorly
designed transfer port passages.
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- Though porting increases the chances of fuel entering
the cylinder at the right time all the parameters of the
engine must be worked out ahead of time. Careful planning
can produce the desired effect. It is most important to
plan exactly what the engine is going to be used for and
what its targeted rpm range is going to be.
Rick
- I guess I'll fall under the
ETC. category. While I'm no expert port grinder, I
believe that you are referring to the "boost" ports.
Typically they are enlarged considerably from stock. The
guy who did my port mod's opened them up big enough that
I can stick my big 'ol thumb through it!!! I know that on
250R cylinders that's the easiest and first place to head
to open up a cylinder. Watch that you don't enlarge them
too much and create a "view window or skylight" into your
cylinder. Then add a reed spacer to move the tips of your
reed cage back to allow more flow thru the now enlarged
boost ports and away you go........hope I helped and
maybe High Output or Trax can elude more on this
please.....
Backcountry
- Damn premium response, Rick. I
call those extra windows "Auxiliary Intakes".......
"Boost Ports" usually refers to additional transfer ports
in the rear area of the cylinder whose tops rise to the
same or similar level as adjacent transfers. As Rick
pointed out, Auxiliary Intakes frequently double as
additional transfer "feeds" at and slightly after BDC
with the aid of a functioning tuned exhaust system. The
need to match time/angle/area to the rest of the engine's
state of tune "package" and velocity requirements for
good throttle response is well mentioned and also
something frequently overlooked. As operational RPM
targets rise, passages can be further enlarged to provide
the required airflow and the higher RPM will create
usable velocity levels. In lower RPM applications, sizes
must be scaled down. There's nothing I can think of to
add to that!
High output
- Damn, although it needn't be
said, you guys are good! The only thing I can say is that
on many cylinders in stock form, the manufacturer
(wanting to keep it reliable) made a "weaker link." (not
really on purpose) This implies that sometimes simply
altering the breathability of the primary intake and its
auxiliaries can be beneficial because the exhaust may be
setup in a "more aggressive" state of tune. However, it
may be just the opposite - it could be the exhaust's
breathability holding the motor back. Then again, it
could be that the exhaust port timing is very
conservative when matching up with the intake. Or -
opposite... Now, if you go opening up the intake and it
was the exhaust hampering the motor all along, all you
will do is slow down... I think you ought to research and
see if you can swindle one of the Polaris pros out of
their port numbers or any tips (you'll never do it!). Or
send it off to a reputable digger. Don't just go cutting
away on those ports though... but cleaning them up and
texturing the intake side of things can't hurt. Polish
the hell out of the exhaust port too...
- Oh well, good luck,
Trax310
- Excellent gentlemen..... I'm
archiving that. This shows how much MORE I need to learn.
I knew about large ports and velocities, but when you
start speaking of port time ratios and such, I really
listen..... cool stuff man.
Backcountry
- Me too!
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- A long time ago I bought a book called the Two Stroke
Tuners Handbook. It was technology pertaining to the
engines of its day (around the mid to late 70's - mostly
piston port engines), not much information about reed
valve's, but I think they talked about disc valve engines
a little bit. Anyway, the point is - there is more
information crammed into that little book than you would
believe. It starts with the basics and builds on it from
there. Most of it is still relevant today.
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- Anyone who wants to learn about 2 strokes and can get
their hand on that book, should read it. Suddenly
everything will make sense. There are many other good
books on Two Stroke Cycle engines out there, but that is
the one that says it all. Check the SAE directory for
these technologies too. They publish some great stuff and
much of it is from the leading manufacturers of
motorcycles. Also do a search at http://www.amazon.com
and type in "two stroke" you'll probably find some
interesting reading
- there too.
Rick
- That book was written by Gordon
Jennings in 1973 and while it has a large amount of very
useful information and most of it does indeed still
apply, it is a bit outdated in several areas. A better
choice might be "Performance Tuning in Theory and
Practice" written in 1983 by A. Graham Bell as well as
many SAE papers including a hard bound collection "PT-33"
printed in 1989 and any information written by Dr. Gordon
Blair of the Queen's University of Belfast, N.
Ireland.
HighOutput
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